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We discussed this on the Genesis forum. Long story short, this is a terrible idea. This is what I said: Why would KIA do this? They already have models outside of the U.S with the features excluded specifically for the U.S.. So they are going to charge a premium for basically a color scheme and...

Lol if there?s a will, there?s a way

I can dig it. There?s only very few coupes I would buy as I?m more into a sleek-looking sedan. The blue and the wheels make that car!

The only BMW that I would consider, if I had the money, would be the V10 E60 or the newest M5 which all the journalists are saying "back to how it was" when BMW was a driver's car.

I would assume they are keeping the residual's high because they will make more money. More money on the lease and more money when the car is returned and sold. It's a great strategy but it doesn't do much for the customer. CPO in 3 years will be about $30k depending on mileage. That's more like...

Looks very good. But, $200k vs. $50k? I know which one I would go with

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It could just be a way for the city/province to make money. You'd be surprised at some of the ordinances some of the States have. More laws = more less informed citizens = more tickets = more money. Quite genius if you ask me.

I don't know how you do it. That's a shame

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May I ask why? I would move out of that Alberta specifically for that reason.. I've never heard of that Also, there are commercial car washes that are touchless. I have a fleet card from the dealership I bought my Genesis from and it's a percentage off gas and a wash. Double if I get a car wash...

I'm sorry you have to hold onto the G8 longer, what a tough life....lol

ScubaSteve I drove a GT AWD and I can defer that opinion. I'd take the Premium over a GT. The GT has almost zero options, definitely not worth $44k which was how much that one was. I'd save some money, get the Premium, piggy back tune if you want more speed, and call it a day. ...Or wait for...

Never understood why. They probably said that after putting Z tubes on it and an exhaust.

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Fair enough. I guess it's geared more toward performance and 3 season driving than having a dedicated snow mode. And thanks for being one to read the manual, a lot of people don't

Understandable. I wasn't throwing KIA as a whole down the drain, just the customer service aspect from which I've dealt with. The sales guy I was working with here was a big help, as he should have been since selling is his job. But he did go above and beyond to keep me updated.

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I have the same AWD system in my Genesis hold a couple tuning tweaks and shift points. ECO in the AWD is almost the same as RWD. In ECO, shifting points become lower, power input via the gas pedal is reduced, the car will not shift down under normal passing conditions unless you really get into...

Get a Genesis lol Kia is bad at customer service overall. Wait for CPO's to come out for $30-$35k. In the meantime, keep your head up, we've all had that bad car buying experience [thumb]