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This happened to me twice on my ecoboost mustang. It's drivable but obviously slower, louder, rougher, etc. Hopefully I won't have to go through this again with the Stinger.

This sounds like an actual purchase program once they go on sale. Seems like the concept is to provide buyers a way to get into one without going to a dealership, similar to what Genesis does.

More on the Kia Stinger Salons:

I'm looking for a nice concave design, in gloss black but so far nothing has jumped out at me.

Awful; haven't been outside in 3 days, my birthday is coming and I'm getting old, I can't stand my company/coworkers, I'm mad at Kia for not having the Stinger on the ground yet, and today's the first so rent is due. BUT, other than that, all is well. [thumb]

Second time for me; I wanted an Optima SX back in 2011, but they were hard to find at the time. To my eyes, that is still a good looking design after all these years.

They should break down and make one. Coupes don't sell in huge numbers, but almost everything they're competing against offers a coupe; A5, 4 series, C coupe, Q60, RC, ats. It's a fairly sexy design in hatch form, they could very easily make a drop dead gorgeous two door if they wanted to.

Agreed. I can't wait to see a race between the G70 and Q50rs. That should be close, at least through the 1/4 mile.

https://youtu.be/TLhPc-OONz4

But of course the haters will scream Kia 'copied' audi...

It was excellent actually, no real complaints. It got mixed reviews but I thought it sounded great; very crisp and clear, no distortion at all. About the only weakness was bass-heavy songs would get a little 'muddy'. Either way it's MUCH better than the overpriced shaker system in the mustang...

Reminds me of my Genesis; here it came with Infinity, but over in Korea they got JBL. Same company, just different branding.

I'm pretty much in the same boat, except for me, it's the BMW M3 I'm also considering. I have a long history of knee-jerk decisions that only hurt me in the long run, so, I'm trying my BEST to be patient and wait to at least drive the Stinger before picking up an M3. But part of me wants to move...

Ouch.....

Finally some numbers for the 4 cylinder: http://www.motortrend.com/cars/kia/stinger/2018/2018-kia-stinger-20-first-test-review/

Not the best review, but favorable: https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2018-kia-stinger-gt-33t-awd-test-review

Lol...sorry. I snapped those from a video posted by a trucker; he thought it was a Stinger prototype. It got me curious, so I thought I'd share. I guess they're doing something right, when they camo these prototypes so well that it throws everyone off.

Lol....I have no idea, I'm just as stumped as everyone else. I would have guessed sonata, except the 2018 is already out.

So a few of my questions were answered in the manual. I see they use the same handsfree trunk system as Hyundai and Genesis, just stand by the rear and it automatically opens. Glad to see you can customize the ambient light color. My current car has that ability too, but offers about 120 more...

Exactly. I just saw in a review that Kia will fine the dealership $35k if the demos are driven on the street. Ouch....