V6TT - What Turbos Does Kia Use?

[pah]

Guys,

I'm still getting to know my new Stinger. The factory turbos kick in down low with lag and I haven't noticed any running out of puff up high. Who makes the turbos on the V6TT? Is there anything special about them? Do they have variable vanes or any other tricky thing?

Also, I just had the 3000km service done at the local dealer and got them to change the oil. I still have some top shelf expensive Full Synthetic oil that I planned to use in my previous car (FG Falcon XR6 Turbo) Having checked the Owners Manual, it looked like this oil would be acceptable in my new Stinger but the dealer said NO. Although the oil meets the SAE rating (SM if my memory is correct) and has a BETTER temp range (0W-40), it missed out with a couple of other letters (and I am running off my memory here). IF my memory is correct the dealer stated that the oil had to include the letters A50 ... and the oil I have is A30. Can anybody tell me what these figures (A50 & A30) mean?


PAH

 

[Djltoronto]

Guys,

I'm still getting to know my new Stinger. The factory turbos kick in down low with lag and I haven't noticed any running out of puff up high. Who makes the turbos on the V6TT? Is there anything special about them? Do they have variable vanes or any other tricky thing?

Also, I just had the 3000km service done at the local dealer and got them to change the oil. I still have some top shelf expensive Full Synthetic oil that I planned to use in my previous car (FG Falcon XR6 Turbo) Having checked the Owners Manual, it looked like this oil would be acceptable in my new Stinger but the dealer said NO. Although the oil meets the SAE rating (SM if my memory is correct) and has a BETTER temp range (0W-40), it missed out with a couple of other letters (and I am running off my memory here). IF my memory is correct the dealer stated that the oil had to include the letters A50 ... and the oil I have is A30. Can anybody tell me what these figures (A50 & A30) mean?


PAH

What is a 3000km service?

Our manuals list the first service under severe duty to be at 5000kms.

What page of the owners manual are you seeing this A30 or A50 spec?

 

[CKeeler]

I believe the turbos are made by Honeywell

 

[spider55]

@CKeeler is right, there Honeywell...

 

[Turbocommuter]

The above posters are correct. They are Honeywell turbos. They are produced under their Garrett moniker. I used to work for Honeywell a few years back, but not their Automotive division that manufactures turbos. They have since spun off this organization into it's own company Garrett Motion.

Honeywell/Garrett makes more turbos than anyone in the world, and have made HUGE strides with turbo technology, particularly over the last 15 years. There isn't anything unusual in terms of application in the Stinger. The evolutionary improvements will certainly be noticeable to us, the consumer in the form of likely very high reliability (based on internal information I've seen about customer returns) and their proprietary technology's ability to produce boost at very low engine RPM, improve fuel economy, and reduce emissions.

 

[pah]

What is a 3000km service?

Our manuals list the first service under severe duty to be at 5000kms.

What page of the owners manual are you seeing this A30 or A50 spec?

Just trying to remember where I saw the A30 vs A50 info. It might have been on documentation at the Dealership Service Dept. When I looked in the service manual, I think it specified only 0W-30.

DJL - It's the complimentary first service. The Kia Australia Service Book lists this at 3000 kms.

 

[Djltoronto]

DJL - It's the complimentary first service. The Kia Australia Service Book lists this at 3000 kms.

Interesting. Wonder why the difference.

Does it call for different engine oil as well? The manual I posted was from the Canadian manual

 

[Stiletto]

Although there isn't much data on the OEM snails, they don't use any wild tech. They aren't variable vane or twin scroll (on the 3.3L). The low end torque is due to tuning and the fact that only four cylinders directly power the turbos. It would be interesting to see an aftermarket manifold which would incorporate all three ports...although I don't know if there is room to squeeze it in there.

 

[CKeeler]

Although there isn't much data on the OEM snails, they don't use any wild tech. They aren't variable vane or twin scroll (on the 3.3L). The low end torque is due to tuning and the fact that only four cylinders directly power the turbos. It would be interesting to see an aftermarket manifold which would incorporate all three ports...although I don't know if there is room to squeeze it in there.

What info told you only two cylinders per side operate the turbo? Every publication I’ve read about the engine says the exhaust manifold is built into the cylinder head. Not attacking you, just wondering where the info came from

 

[Stiletto]

Looking at the hot side of the turbo, only two ports feed it.

http://m.greenturbo.co.kr/product/eq900-28231-3l100-lh/555/

 

[Djltoronto]

Looking at the hot side of the turbo, only two ports feed it.

http://m.greenturbo.co.kr/product/eq900-28231-3l100-lh/555/

Are you suggesting that 1 cylinder per side, skips the turbo and has its own exhaust bypass that routes around the turbo?

 

[Stiletto]

Are you suggesting that 1 cylinder per side, skips the turbo and has its own exhaust bypass that routes around the turbo?

It certainly doesn't have it's own exhaust manifold. I'd have to see the heads, but my guess is they rear cylinders feed in the the front two.

 

[Chris71]

Garret series 14 gt turbos

As said above to be clear
Honeywell Garrett turbos.


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[Djltoronto]

It certainly doesn't have it's own exhaust manifold. I'd have to see the heads, but my guess is they rear cylinders feed in the the front two.

I think you are confusing the integrated header with something else.

All 3 cylinders of each bank flow through their respective turbos.

See attached, some images that should elaborate.

 

[Stiletto]

I think you are confusing the integrated header with something else.

All 3 cylinders of each bank flow through their respective turbos.

See attached, some images that should elaborate.

This pic is perfect! This shows how all three exhaust ports flow into the headerfold. Thanks!

 

[Rick-F]

I'd say they are GARRETT turbos. Honeywell did not acquire Garrett--

In 1964, Garrett AiResearch merged with Signal Oil & Gas to form a company renamed in 1968 to Signal Companies, which in 1985 merged with Allied Corp. into AlliedSignal. In 1999 AlliedSignal acquired Honeywell and adopted the Honeywell name.